You can't beat despair, but you can share hope. It's such a great message, especially given the history of these characters.
Red Guardian not feeding into a joke after Yelena's breakdown is such a good moment, not only because the MCU is rife with killing serious moments with a bad joke, but Alexei has been making bad jokes the whole time trying to connect with his daughter. That's how he copes though, and he knows Yelena is doing it too. He doesn't feed into it though because he doesn't want to help Yelena cope, he wants to help her heal and he's present in that moment with her.
The line is 'Daddy I'm so alone' which hits even harder
As someone who has dealt with crippling depression I legit had tears in my eyes in two scenes specifically. One part, where Bob tells Yelena to leave him behind because he’s a burden, and the second where he’s trying to punch down the void but it’s simply consuming him whole. It was art, and I haven’t emotionally resonated with a movie like this in ages
Roughly quoting: "If they want to have another phase three, they must first have another phase one" is probably one of the best way someone has boiled down the issue with the recent phase/s
First MCU film I saw in theatre's twice. Resonant theme, good dialogue, funny without being over the top - great stuff
I remember when the Avengers would gather to avenge dead people, and that was Stark's biggest gripe with it: they do the work after the fact. These NEW Avengers are here to save people because they care about people, they're here to avenge each other's mistakes before things get worse, and help each other. That's what led me to accept them not only as the MCU's newest Avengers, but as the MCU's newest family.
It's the first Marvel film in years where I have left the cinema and felt like the film had soul. I loved how grounded the characters felt - despite it being a superhero film - as it allows them to relate to issues and flaws shared with the audience compared to the disconnected grandeur of some other phase five projects. Brilliant video!
I think its really funny that the thunderbolts (a bunch of B list characters) managed to make a good film like how back in the day when the first avengers movie came out they were the B team
Let's hope they don't mess the chemistry in the next two Avengers...
This movie has awakened in me an excitement for the MCU that I haven't felt in years. I've seen it 3 times in theatres and might even see it again this week. I haven't watched ANY movie multiple times in theatres, but Thunderbolts is something so fresh and needed at this time and it's absolutely taken over my mind in a way that I haven't felt since 2015. I hope and pray that they take the right lessons from this sheer success and keep the momentum that this film has gotten them.
Thunderbolts is a fantastic movie. It's great to see the MCU deliver a movie like this again. Great characters, impressive action, good humor, and a true message. No multiverse nonsense or cameo fest. Just Yelena being awesome, Bucky being cool, a group of underdogs coming together.
Something I adore about this movie is that Yelena's big emotional blow out with Alexi is in the middle of a sidewalk where people are walking, and not generically in some dark room or secluded environment. It felt very realistic since I've had these emotional blow outs in inconvenient places so it really hit home with me and what she said resonated with me hard to the point where, I actually started crying.
Thunderbolts* was so damn great that it made me revisit Black Widow and, I gotta say, I think that film is the most underrated of this entire franchise. While I would have preferred to have had that film earlier in the franchise, it had great characters at its core and (through Thunderbolts*) becomes a stronger film because the whole time it existed it had a strong heart at its core. I can say, without a doubt, that Thunderbolts* made me love comic book films again and, for that alone, it's my favourite MCU film.
I get really offended when nobody wants to remember how good that last guardians movie was and shang chi was.
Spoilers in my thoughts: I really liked this film. Quite a lot. I love how in camera it all was and how it had something to say with these characters about loneliness and depression. There is a heartbreaking quiet moment where after John Walker sees his vision he then slowly steps towards the edge as if he wants to fall off. It was a tiny scene but such a powerful moment. Red Guardian had me nervous. All the trailers showed him being the comedic relief and he was but he also had depth. Saving a young girl, being there for her instantly not long after he heard out Yelena is brilliant. Sentry as the villain made sense especially with what his character had to say about the theme of the film and what he and the Void represents. The theme is about how “nothing brings people together quite like feeling alone” Them being The New Avengers is great especially as the credits are mocking this and ripping it just as online would. It’s great, it’s a fresh idea. It didn’t wreck me like GOTG Vol.3 but if I watched this at my lowest which was in 2023 then I know it probably would’ve helped save my life then and not just therapy and my partner. I don’t really care if “Marvel is back” I just hope that this film spoke to someone or multiple people and they feel understood and better about their life. That to me is most important about any creative art. The best way to help you solve your issues is by helping someone with their issues and you both learn from that experience. That’s what I’ve learnt just from life and what Thunderbolts shown
Thunderbolts hit me in a way that not even the Guardians movies could, and those were my favorite of the MCU for as long as I can remember. I felt emotionally invested in the trilogy and felt overwhelmed with catharsis by the end of 3. But Thunderbolts made me feel like I was understood in a way I never expected a Marvel movie of all things to do. Both Bob and Yelena have traumas and damage that I relate to and been through in similar ways and having such a strong voice say that I'm not alone in my pain left me in tears by the end. Genuinely my favorite of the MCU by far and I do not put that lightly.
Ngl seeing Bucky show up and choose to start over with this new team is really moving. He’s put together his own team of people he can relate to. Finally feels like he's where he belongs. My GOAT!!! I'd much rather get a sequel with this team than the major spectacle of Doomsday.
I was in a really low place mentally when I watched this movie and didn’t realize how much I needed to see this until I did. This movie was way better than i expected and brought the magic back to the mcu
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