I'd really love to see how Batman would feel if he realized his dream of a utopian Gotham. Would he feel accomplished? Would he feel bereft of purpose? Maybe both?
A fun fact is that Mary Shelley originally wrote Frankenstein while on vacation with Lord Byron! I wouldn't be surprised if all the Victorian poets inspired each other and themselves.
The trick to Batman is to not make him an antihero, not to make him "the Punisher in a silly hat," as OSP Red said, but not to abandon the tortured, grim nature of the character. There's a reason Batman is (outside of some bad movies) close friends with Superman. You have to recognize their unique similarities as Paragons.
I feel like Anakin definitely meets the criteria of a Byronic hero. He is his own greatest enemy, he is driven to his crimes over the obsession with saving his wife only to end up being the one to kill her. He himself is the monster he hates greater than anyone. And it is only after confronting that monster that he can redeem himself in some way.
Lets face it the true most dramatic hero is the guy who dresses up as Ronald Mcdonald in the commercials
The only child he—Lord Byron— ever had in wedlock was Ada Lovelace AKA one of the first programmers and a skilled mathematician. Also, Mary Shelley, Author of Frankenstein **knew** Lord Byron, actually.
I love your artistry. Not just your animation -- which is exceptional -- but your ability to show your viewers the insides of themselves. At the beginning of this I was thinking (with the bitter female fraction of me): Oh FFS, self-important Byron. Then it became clear that the reason for the repulsion is nothing attracts my attention like a Byronic hero. No other antihero will do. Repulsed, because I'm obsessed. I feel compelled to hand over my insurance card. Thanks for the witchcraft, sir.
This is by far and away one of the deepest structural analyses of a character archetype this channel has ever done. It really digs in to the mechanics that make the Byronic hero compelling; it's an incision that allows us to see the sinew of these characters and really understand what animates them. Just phenomenal.
On TV tropes, I found a trope called the protagonist journal to villain : When the main character starts out as a hero or just a good person who then starts to become the villain over the course of the story like arthas, anakin skywalker (though he does get redeemed in episode 6), big boss, and light yagami.
"The Gods of Olympus have abandoned me. Now there is no hope."
I think there's something of the Byronic hero in both Jessie Pinkman and Walter White, Pinkman more overtly tortured by his own actions, torn apart by its inevitable fallout and the emotions that torture him, and White as he turns into the monster, shrugs off his humanity, only to find it again in his protege and the arc of self-confrontation and destruction Also, your personification of inner-anguish is chilling
This guy needs to get in touch with TV Tropes.
You should do a video on the Sympathetic Strawman (Otherwise known as the John Walker Effect) An extremely interesting character meant to be a hated antagonist and ideological strawman that ends up been more human, relatable, and popular with audiences than the main characters
God I’m always gonna love it when one of your videos pops up in my feed. Thanks a million again you all
One modern example of Byronic hero i like is Brad Armstrong from LISA The Painful RPG. ***SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED*** Its a long story but basic premise is Brad is constantly haunted by the trauma of his sister's suicide and Father's abuse. The very first thing we see of adult Brad is him going on a bender to try to forget that trauma. One day, an apocalyptic event occurs where all women on earth disappear. Brad however eventually finds a baby in this wasteland; a girl. While his friends urge him to take her to the big warband who can properly raise her, Brad chooses to raise her as his "second chance." A chance to do better than his father and fix the feeling of responsibility for Lisa's suicide. Already some aspirational goals, but Brad is not a great father: he's overprotective of her, never lets her outside without full disguise, teaches her to defend herself by killing a tied up innocent man, and previous addictions he had quit for her remain. When she is taken from their home one day, Brad goes on a warpath to find her, killing anyone and everyone in his way, in a world without means to reproduce. His actions mean well - saving his daughter - but he kills and ruins the lives of so many. Even old friends arent spared, as he maims one for information and can choose to kill them all or let only one go. The small army brad recruits on his journey are not treated well either. There are so many permanent ways party members can die: death by mutant, Brad having to choose between them and Buddy, brad forcing them to play russian roulette, being captured in the night and Brad deciding not to pay the ransom. He can even force them to become addicted to drugs. When Brad finally catches up to Buddy, she goes off: she hates him, he's a terrible father, she just wants to be left alone, and Brad's father was a better person to her than brad ever was (play the game if ya dont know what i mean). At that moment, Brad realizes he has failed; all his work to be better than his father, and he ended up exactly like him. Yet, he still pushes on, because Buddy is still his daughter, and he still needs to protect her, even if she doesnt need, nor want it. Like Joel Miller, brad also fights an army thats a hope for humanitys survival to save his daughter. Tho differing in that while Joel knows hes actually saving her, brad thinks hes saving her, and ends up a horrifying pincussion of arrows, yet still victorious. In his final moments, Brad says his final words, not that hes sorry or that he loved her, but to tell the truth. The moment she was born in this world, she never had a chance to make her own life; people were always gonna do things for her: decide for her. All he ever wanted, and needed, was to protect her. Yet, buddy tells Brad... hes the one that has hurt her the most. With a few final breaths, Brad just asks for one thing, the one thing he never got; a hug. He just wants to know what it feels like. This time Buddy must make a choice: give a dying man his last wish, or dont. The game ends with Brad falling to the ground, everything he's done behind him, all the abuse and violence, asking one last question: Did i do the right thing? That is Brad Armstrong: a man who simply wishes to protect his daughter from a terrible world, yet ends up doing much evil in that goal, even hurting the one he meant to protect.
One of the best Byronic heroes in gaming is Shadow the Hedgehog. He feels responsible of the death of Maria Robotnik, and he uses her memory to drive him to make the world a better place. Teaming uo with Sonic on multiple occasions since. Even if he never sees eye to eye with his rival.
Personally, Wander from Shadow of the Colossus is a perfect representation of most of the things talked here, even though, the lack of a well defined personality makes him less comfortable for people used to literature
So complex I love the way you explained it. I've learned more from these videos about actual writing than I have from any other english class I've taken
Byron is my favorite poet; it makes me so happy every time you reference him ❤
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