@terrytaylor7036
An aspect of this relationship that’s overlooked is that Jake’s own parents died when he was (presumably) a teenager. He doesn’t have a reference point for parenting after your kids grow up. To him, it just makes sense that his kids don’t need him anymore because he didn’t “need” his parents. Once it becomes clear to him that this isn’t the case, we do see him hang out with the pups more.
@Witchhunter7020
I mean in Jakes defense the kids grow up like really fast and he was just a dad for like very few days and was still learning the ropes. Heck they were even stated to be older than him by the end of the episode they were born in.
@ShineDark
I’ve come to sympathize with Kim Kil Whan’s motives as I’ve gotten older, but a factor I feel like Kim didn’t consider was the important role his dad plays in Oo. Jake and Finn are the heroes of Oo. They save lives and entire kingdoms on a near daily basis. If they don’t live the lives they do and protect the lands, there are few others who could do the same. That said, Jake still should have been to the party on time with food and presents.
@Kuratosuhanma
Poor Finn , the actual child got in some crossfire in this episode
@sinnamonshoggoth2928
A lot of people interpret Jake as neglectful to some extent, and while I think that’s a perfectly valid way to read the show, I’ve never actually interpreted him as such. Jake is fully present for his kids’s childhoods, he is an active and loving father, overprotective, even, at first. He becomes more distant only when his children grow up enough to express a desire for more autonomy, and in this episode they are full grown adults. I don’t read this episode as a commentary on a neglectful parent, but rather as an examination of what it looks like to love someone you don’t understand. Jake absolutely makes mistakes, but that’s not the root of the problem here. Kim Kil Whan is pushed into action by something that is definitely a bad move, to put it lightly, but his main issue is that he can’t understand Jake’s lifestyle because of how vastly different it is from his own. To Kim, his father is childish, but while Jake is immature at times, he is a normal adult by the standards of the culture he exists in. “Adventurer” is a valid, important, and profitable job in Ooo, one which Jake is very good at. He owns a home, is in a committed and healthy marriage, and not only raised his children but is also serving as the primary caretaker for Finn. Jake is living a normal and even successful life, contributing to society, and he’s happy with where he is. He needs to learn to be more present in his children’s adult lives, but KKW needs to learn that success and fulfillment can manifest differently for different people, and that that is fine, even good. This episode’s ending not only makes me hopeful for Jake’s parenting improving, but Kim Kil Whan’s as well. Before this episode and its lesson, I think Kim would have been disappointed had his daughter grown up and chosen to live a life more reminiscent of her grandfather than of her father, but after this, I think he wouldn’t care all that much, so long as she’s happy.
@yourbasicninja
God dang, the first time i saw this episode (i was in my early teens) i thought it was a weird resolution in the end, but the typical adventure-time-not-making-ssense-but-funny-ending. Now rewatching it as an adult with a (somewhat) grown up perspective, I didnt realize of how mature the writing was underneath the comedic moments, and how the ocarina was more than just a dumb gift but an honest/meaningful gift from father to son
@AshEclipse-d4v
As someone who had a neglectful dad growing up, I thought Kim Kil Whan was a jerk when I was younger. Now that I'm older, I can see his point of view, he just wanted a dad who was there, who he could respect, look up to, and get advice from. That's why I like the pups in general as each of them represent a bit of my relationship with my dad (I was like Viola and kept making excuses for my dad until I eventually gave up and became like Kim Kil Whan, not really expecting anything but still having a decent relationship). In the end what helped me be satisfied with my dad was seeing Kim Kil Whan (And Finn) accept his dad for who he was and realize he couldn't change him. My dad once told me he wondered what we (Me and my siblings) were doing sometimes which made me think of Jake's "I wonder what my pups are doing" line after he literally killed his own dad just to keep them safe and it hit home cause it made me realize that despite all the mistakes and neglect, my dad truly loves me and thinks of me like Jake to his pups. (Sorry if this got too long, I just really love this part of Jake's character)
@winonajohnson3349
I think the lesson shouldn’t be that “you can’t force neglectful parents to change”, it’s that “your kids need you at every age of their lives, and you should be there”. Not empty handed, not constantly breaking your promises, you should do what you said you would. If you want to be irresponsible, people will treat you that way, including your kids.
@jedrzejkoszewski4342
This episode makes series finale even more heartbreaking when Finn and Jake lose Treehouse permanently.
@marcomirhayes7121
All I know is Fin and Jake's property is still their's as they weren't given proper notice and time to get their things together. So, Kim needs to learn the law he is enforcing and accept he has no legal claim to their property, bone and all.
@TSstopmotions
“This is a bill for the bail I just paid!” “Ooooohhhhhh” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@EeveeFlipnoteStudios
Thoughtful analysis of the episode! It’s always great seeing these shows write about the incredibly messy, complicated parent-child dynamic. Unfortunately, I see people in the comments picking sides which seems to have missed the point… I really appreciated how the scene when Jake gives the ocarina, he stretches out to meet Kim at eye level.. like they finally see each other on even footing. Jake’s previous attempts have him at his normal size, trying to solve the issues his usual way, instead of reaching (stretching?) out to find the solution that works best with Kim. And it is through expressing his love in an honest way that helps Kim drop his defenses and accept that Jake gave him the best he could, and maybe that’s all he needs. It is lovely to see that even after a child “grows up”, the parents-child relationship still requires communication, love, and maintenance. And with luck, that relationship can grow in a positive direction if the child is able to express their own perspective on equal ground as the parent.
@michaejoseph3719
these videos touch my soul never stop posting
@TristanIonizedBerri
this is actually one of my favorite episodes, i’m glad you covered this episode and it’s message.
@Iroh-e3n
Kim had to learn that due to his very genetics he never NEEDED Jake. And jake not being there for his childhood never stopped him from succeeding, and Jake still loved him regardless.
@EpicEIF
Something funny to add, Kim taking the golden bone would actually be considered stealing (in U.S. law) purposefully hidden treasure, regardless of land ownership, can be found and kept legally. So since they dug it up, and owned it previously, and the bone was unknown to Kim, it was fair game for Finn and Jake.
@crysiscrafter7408
That was comfy and nice. Glad the algorithm had me find you somehow.
@garg4531
“It’s useless. It’s honest. And that’s what makes it beautiful.”
@renaldimoniaga418
Y'all are forgetting that Jake did tryna be a good dad for his kids but the pups just grow up too fast like in actual sense. That's when Jake stop treating them like kids and more like adults. Sure he isn't a perfect suburban dad but give the guy a credit at least he's actually trying to be one. He even wanted to let go of the 'fun' and adventuring life with Fin his brother and his closest friend just to raise the pups when they were born. Just because Jake wasn't always there doesn't mean he doesn't care. Everyone have different concept of love and affection and how they showed it. Give the guy a break.
@JohnSmith-io3ii