Mike Elias fired Brandon Hyde because Mike wasn’t going to fire himself, because ultimately he’s to blame. As a O’s fan since 1996, I’m pissed 😠
Why wasn't Elias fired too. He's the one who screwed this team! Elias NEEDS TO GO... TODAY!
They don’t need a rebuild. They just need some pitching. Especially starting pitching.
The rebuild isn't the issue. It was the correct thing to do. It's the lack of support after. Not getting the pitching and clutch hitting needed to get over the hump has put them in the position they are today. They trade away quality prospects for projects that either get hurt or DFA'd. The starting pitching wasn't enough before the injuries and they didn't get nearly enough to make up for the loses to injury. The bullpin is over used and tired. They let quality guys like Coulombe go and keep choke artist like Perez. The leadership is too arrogant to admit when they made poor pick ups in Kimbrel (last season) and Morton (this year). Just pushing guys out their because they are going to turn it around and make them look good, and totally not choke again. Another issue is that they are too focused on analytics and not enough about actually playing baseball. They have these young guys overwhelmed trying to win games with 4-5 homeruns. Then they have to deal with a quality lefty and the bats go to sleep and the lefty racks up double digit K's. Being a slave to analytics has gotten their starters hurt (too worried about velocity, not enough about painting corners), and paralyzed batters when it matters (currently 30th in RISP). Honestly, if they clear the front office and firesell off the guys that won't be here next year, it would be optimal at this point. Retool for next year, and get leadership that actually knows baseball not statistics.....and spend some damn money.
This is a joke! The GM totally dropped the ball when it came to addressing the pitching woes!
Wasn't a coaching issue. Management issue.
The GM should have been fired! He didn’t address pitching!
Not an Orioles fan but there are several potential candidates for the O's and targets for my Braves when Snit retires In No order- Mark DeRosa Skip Schumaker David Ross Joe Maddon Buck Showalter
It's important to remember why a full rebuild was needed in 2019. It wasn't just an aging and underperforming roster, it was a broken organization. No international scouting/pipeline to speak of (to include being the only team with no complex in the DR), no use of modern analytics (which the Orioles have taken too far now, by the way), and one of the worst farm systems in baseball. None of that is the case now. The farm system is decent, there is talent on the roster, etc. BUT, they need to take a serious look in the mirror at their process and their approach to roster building. If that changes and some roster improvements are made, this team could/should be contenders next year. It feels hopeless at the moment, but it isn't.
Both Hyde and Elias should have hit the pavement. Elias sat on his hands during the off season, afraid to make a move. Hyde, underachieved in the post season - failing to win a game in two years.
There was a football team a few years ago that wanted to know why they were having so many soft tissue injuries on their team and the result of their analysis was that their players were being overtrained and the muscles were not being given sufficient time to recuperate and were already in a stressed state at the time of the next contest which was leading to tears and strains. I don’t remember having heard of something called a lat teres strain until the last couple of years and why it takes so long to recover from it. Too many of our players in Baltimore and in the minors are injured, in rehabilitation or playing injured. As for pitchers, I grew up at a time watching McNally, Palmer and Cuellar, and every 5th day they were out pitching sometimes for 9 or 10 innings (there weren’t relief specialists then) while racking up 250+ innings for the year and were not suffering the elbow and shoulder injuries (exception of Palmer in 1969) that players on this team seem to be suffering in throwing much fewer innings. If David Rubenstein is looking to improve the future fortunes of this team he may want to consider propelling the strength and conditioning coach(es) out the door as well, and whoever is supposed to be monitoring the training of the pitchers in the off-season so that a situation like Bradish doesn’t happen again. A team has a certain number of years in its ‘championship window’ and we are now 3 years through that window. I’m curious, may someone can offer a reply. I don’t read articles on the Orioles every day so maybe I missed one. Cal Ripken Jr is a stakeholder in the ownership of this team but I never hear him say anything or be interviewed about the poor state of the team this year. He was on a team in the 1990’s that pushed all the chips to the center of the table and added veteran pieces that made that team a legitimate World Series threat. The shine has come off the Elias star for me, maybe the guy that truly got the Astros to the World Series every year was somebody else. Maybe this is the best we’re going to see from Elias. I don’t think I could have taken enough psychedelics to have envisioned this catastrophe. The curse of the full orange unis. On 06/29/24 the Orioles were 52-30 and today they are 15-30, horrors! When Hank Bauer was fired in 1968 the Orioles were floundering and Earl Weaver took over and the team caught fire and gave the Tigers a fight for the pennant. I wish Tony the same success”.
As an Orioles fan since 1974, this is by far the worst front office ever. Worse than '88. Elias needs to go, and their billionair ownership needs to open their pockets and hire pitching talent. Hyde was not the problem, and Elias did the usual by making things worse with his decision-making.
After last night, he had no chance of staying; basic bb was obviously gone; that's on the manager.
About time
Matt is so pathetically upset about the tanking years. It's okay for teams to 5x payroll but god forbid a team tries to acquire talent an alternative way
Hyde is a GREAT manager - Elias is an assistant GM and scout who doesn't know how to get a roster to championship level. Time to find a new GM.
So it is somehow Brandon Hydes fault that Elias and ownership didn’t bother to get a true number one pitcher? Also signing a past his prime Charlie Morton. Perez sucks and should be released.This team has gone from world series contenders to a dumpster fire. And i pin the blame squarely on Elias and ownership.
Hyde is just the convenient scapegoat. The real blame starts with the new ownership that lied to its fanbase about investing in a real contender.
Talk about covering one's own a$$. It's the GM's fault the O's are losing. They have zero pitching. Last year they were thin on pitching but the GM did nothing to acquire more arms in the off-season. Unless the new manager can pitch with an ERA under 3, I don't see much of a difference.
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