@JeffGeerling

Update October 17: Qualcomm has cancelled the Snapdragon Dev Kit.

They're not going to support it any longer, have stopped production, and will be refunding all those who ordered on Arrow.com (maybe even me, even though I got one...).

I have a blog post with the details here: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/qualcomm-cancels-snapdragon-dev-kit-refunds-all-orders

@RoastBeefSandwich

Microsoft gave Qualcomm a several month head start with the Copilot+ PCs, and they squandered it. What a shame.

@jfolz

He may be an absolute ghoul, but Steve Balmer knows it's all about developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers,

@asdprogram

100 watts from an architecture known to be efficient is some serious power consuption...

@AZisk

I love how Linus did a segue to Jeff. nice touch

@itsoverbananakin

Reminder that in the US it’s not lawful for a company to refuse warranty purely because of stickers being removed or damaged.

@AZisk

Thanks for the shoutout. I’m still waiting and totally jealous 😅

@hawk_7000

It seems truly bizarre that the cost(?) of not putting the most limited Windows edition on these would even be an point of discussion considering what this piece of hardware is supposed to be, not only for Qualcomm but for Microsoft as well.

@aspzx

I love how you pixelated the application of thermal paste.

@HiTechLoLife

Part of me wants to believe that the HDMI foundation is to blame for the HDMI fiasco, given they gave AMD issues with HDMI drivers on Linux.

@gabrielnilo6101

Wow... what a big red flag for devs when:

-The priority of a Windows dev kit is sending it way after the official product.

-There is no "pro" license... just why?
Even if a software or driver doesn't work, it should not matter... in the old days they would just send dev kits with everything enable and let you work your ass through stuff that everyone knew wasn't ready yet!

-You cannot open it... again... why? whenever there is some problem, like for example the performance while doing something that would use a lot of performance, I would just remove the hardware and test it in another computer... I found many bad cables, MicroSD, connections, RAM and disks by doing this.... that's how you find bad stuff and report it.

A dev kit, and taking in account that this is an Windows one, is a kit for people that are willing to work basically FOR FREE to improve your product so you let them do whatever they want with it... BIG loss for the ARM industry, I hope they change the way they are doing things... NOT going to buy the first gen, not worth my time.

BTW, giving credit where credit is due, wise choice to add a 2.5 Gb Ethernet port and good cooling.

@BeefLettuceAndPotato

As a solely Linux user.. and a Mediatek fan (I like the bang for buck underdogs lol) .... I think Mediatek could do the funniest thing right here. Go all in on ARM Linux and drop their best SoCs for it. Remember Valve is even hinting at slowly but surely getting Steam OS to arm as well. You could be the first in the market that actually seems like it has life, rather than Qualcomm who have seemingly flubbed their chance at getting into an established market.

@zambonidriver42

Qualcomm and MS, both dominant in the field of top tier marketing promises and then not delivering.

@electronicharry

It seems like the ECB could be the Embedded Controller Board - this is a class of products that ITE does make (I posted this comment before with a link but it's not showing up, not sure if a moderation tool blocked it so trying again without the link). Embedded Controllers are essentially "BMC (Board Management Controller) but slightly less so" in that they're smaller and lower power than the BMCs used on servers, and typically don't have their own networking or graphics. They're responsible for power sequencing / power state management, fan management, UART breakout (for debugging), etc. 

Generally I would have expected this to be soldered to the mainboard, but if this was development hardware, maybe they wanted to validate different vendors (ITE, Nuvoton, Microchip, etc) and put it on an add-in card instead. BMCs being on add-in cards is also becoming more standard in the server space so maybe they were just taking a page from that.

@MillisecondFalcon

I've been waiting for this video for months. Not disappointed! Love the thematically appropriate tee shirt too!! :-D

@MrThedennisblack

“Mac Mini Killer” lol the EXTERNAL power supply alone is about the same size as a Mac Mini. Even if this thing had great performance (which it absolutely doesn’t) it still wouldn’t be a Mac Mini killer - it would just be a cool ARM mini PC.

@yarost12

The fact that Qualcomm, the number 1 soc maker for Android, doesn't support Linux on their new SoC, is astounding.

Mainline Linux already supports plenty of Qualcomm boards and Android kernel can be used to boot Linux pretty much as is with minimal config changes.

@privacyvalued4134

1:20 Obviously B.  Microsoft is notorious for their absolutely draconian launch requirements.  Windows Phone flopped for similar reasons:  $99/year (even if you didn't have plans to publish any apps) + having to register each device with Microsoft + meeting minimum PC requirements just to use the emulator, which required bleeding edge hardware at the time.  No one could afford it and library devs (i.e. NOT app devs) didn't want to go through the hassle and expense just so they could port their libraries to Windows Phone.  The result?  No apps in the Windows Phone app store and ultimately Microsoft cancelled the entire platform because they actively chose to ignore reality.

@SP-ny1fk

I'm glad you were Jeff Geerling in this video too, I was afraid by your announcement at the end of your previous video.

@timothyvandyke9511

I’ve been following the saga on Twitter and was super excited to see the video. Thanks for sharing your experience! 

I would LOVE an X elite laptop. I’m currently eyeing Asahi but haven’t pulled the trigger because of lack of support for all hardware