@ex0stasis72
The worst is when I do a Google search for a problem and I get a forum thread as the first result, and the first response is to Google it. Well, I just did, and it let me to this page where someone actually directly answered the question below.
@HyperDroids
Terry A Davis: "An idiot admires complexity; a genius admires simplicity". Few things to note: 1. Few Linux professionals actually use Arch, choosing Fedora, OpenSUSE, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, RedHat and even Ubuntu over it because the latter are generally more consistent in their reliability and compatibility, in turn improving workflow and user experience. What defines a man is not his tools of choice, but rather his skills in spite of them. 2. For bragging rights, Gentoo is more difficult than Arch, and Arch can be installed automatically using Archinstall or ArchTitus, completely simplifying the process. 3. There's nothing special about Arch in of itself other than the availability of slightly different, new and experimental software packages, which can be entertaining to try out, but certainly aren't ideal for the vast majority of people to daily drive.
@mx338
The thing that annoys me as a sysadmin is that some Arch Linux users see all tinkering and tweaking as the purpose of using Linux and feel elitist because they are doing that, when Linux actually is a tool, to get done what you want.
@netscans
I've personally found the server side of the Linux community to be incredibly professional and a lot more mature, even in the way that they help users. They reply to forum threads like theyre solving tickets, rather than showboating their knowledge or getting upset when you don't ask the right way. It's definitely not perfect but there's a noticeable difference.
@unkown34x33
I can confirm... a guy asked a question about the arch on the steam deck, they literally said "rtfm" or google yourself, stop making us your problems I'm literally like dude... he never used arch before, he can't find anything, or he just thought it was better to ask "the pros"
@vladimirvinogradov9520
I recently moved in a new block, it is really popular among young people, who work in tech or other fancy industries. A few days ago there was some kind of earthquake or something like that. There was a very loud sound and the ground was moving under the feet for a few seconds, some people even got seriously injured. Later I read the local news and they report that the most lightweight arch user just fell off his chair.
@chimera_dnb
I remember one time I was having an issue in FreeBSD and people on r/FreeBSD were telling me to read the handbook, but the problem I was having was not addressed at all in the handbook, it was like a kneejerk reaction for some people just to assume I was lazy or stupid. So this can happen in any tech community, not just Arch.
@seandonelan5834
my personal favorite dialogue between an arch and debian user: "real linux users use arch, why don't you switch?" "i plan on doing work with my machine, thanks for the suggestion though"
@_moosh
If you're so hung up on how dumb someone's question sounds, the best way to go about interacting with them is to... not answer their question. If you want Arch to be difficult and unforgiving and manual-based SO bad, then make them need to google the question. There are no dumb questions, just a lack of patience from the people who think they can answer them. Poor teachers for an already difficult subject.
@alefalfa
"Arch Linux isn't that hard, it only requires patience, reading and a lot of manual configuration" Thats pretty much the definition of "hard" in the context of software. Great video.
@manwithstds7503
Never ask an arch user what the age of consent be according to them.
@Confused_Cape_Goose
My biggest problem with people posting unhelpful or toxic answers on forum posts is that it pollutes the search results for all other users which makes it more annoying to find the answer as they have to both waste time reading the daft forum post and terrible answer then continue searching for the answer to a potentially difficult problem anyway
@Tyler-Kearney
If anyone unironically says “real Linux users use arch,” just keep 2 things in mind. 1. Gentoo is harder 2. Linus Torvolds, the creator of Linux, uses Fedora. I love arch, but I do still occasionally like to sit back and enjoy the nice simplicity of mint, fedora, pop os, or….. very occasionally, Ubuntu
@LubomyrHlieviy
I am I hardcore Windows user. Just tried Linux Mint. When I posted on reddit all the Arch linux users started roasting me like crazy!!!
@oliver_twistor
I'm always afraid to ask questions on forums like StackOverflow, because there is always some a**hole answering your question with just insults, or downvoting into oblivion just because you missed reading that one Usenet post from 1992 explaining the issue. And I'm a computer engineer with over 10 years of professional experience. But every time I go online I feel inferior. A common excuse for people being rude in answers is that on forums like StackOverflow or Arch people aren't paid and they are giving people their time. My response to that is if you haven't got time to answer people nicely, you shouldn't probably be on those forums answering questions right now. It goes both ways in that of course nobody can demand volunteers to give you answers on your every question, but at the same time nobody is forcing you to answer questions. You don't have to put up with "stupid" questions if you don't want to. I feel that there are quite a few people on these forums whose intentions are not first and foremost to help, but to show their skills. They're not doing it for the newbies, they're doing it for their own benefit. And that is not a good motivation at all. To properly help people, you have to have a drive to help and a humility to go with it. And just because you are knowledgeable in a subject doesn't mean you're a good teacher. The smartest person isn't always the best teacher, because often they can't relate. Savants who learned Linux at age 3 and programmed their own OS at age 5 probably isn't the best person to help 78 year old Albert update his computer for the first time in his life. Both my parents were teachers their whole lives and my father who was well-liked by most of his students struggled in school himself, especially with math and physics, which were two of the subjects he taught at the high school he worked at. He always said that the fact he struggled made him such a good teacher, because he could put himself into the shoes of his struggling students. I like that you said multiple times in the video that it's okay to for example use Arch, but it's also okay to use something else, and neither makes you "better" than anyone else. The reasons for not using something complex is often not that you can't, but instead that you don't want the hassle. If a chef orders a hamburger from McDonald's, it doesn't mean that they can't cook or that they think that McDonald's is 3-star Michelin dining; they might just want to eat something quick and don't want the hassle to make something super special themselves. I don't use vim because I can't bother to have to learn all the commands (I have poor memory due to disability, so I'm bad at remembering commands and stuff like that). It's not that I'm stupid or that I can't learn stuff (I'm an engineer after all), but I'd rather use nano (or heaven forbid, kate --- yeah, I know, I like GUI's /gasp/ haha).
@maniek86
As a Linux user (here Debian user), I often find it disheartening when people engage in heated debates about which distribution is the best. In my opinion, it is important to remember that Linux is all about freedom and choice. Each distribution has its own unique strengths and appeals to different users based on their preferences and requirements. All distros cater to different user needs, be it stability, customization or simplicity. It is wide array of choices that makes someone choose some distro. Furthermore, it is essential to recognize that what may be ideal for one person may not necessarily be the same for another. Some may prioritize user-friendly interfaces and out-of-the-box functionality, while others may prefer a minimalistic setup. There is literary no universal "best" distro; there is only what suits each user's needs and preferences. Also about beginner Linux users, it is even more important to emphasize the freedom of choice and the need for supportive communities. Starting out on Linux can be hard especially for those who are new to it. We should not push beginners towards "hard" distros like with a dismissive "just use Arch lol because I use it". Also, it's important to remember that learning in the Linux world, like in any other domain, requires curiosity, exploration, and asking questions. These questions could be "stupid" or "too simple," but we should remember that no question should be dismissed or belittled. Everyone starts their Linux journey with different levels of knowledge and expertise and we should respect them. Being disrespectful in forums (like you showed in the video) just makes the generally Linux community or some distro community look unwelcoming and discourages users from using Linux or that distro. Also it's funny how people are already fighting in comments about "X distro is the best". Seriously I'm at this point getting bored of distro fights.
@nunyabusiness9013
Most people are smart enough to not want to spend hours doing something that's automatic on other distros. No one cares if you're good at arch.
@hugoedelarosa
Calling them dumb questions tells me everything I need to know about Arch users. A wiki is kinda useless if a noob doesn’t even know what to put on a search bar.
@liquidmobius
Almost all Linux forums are notorious for being toxic. And many of the members don't just simply "volunteer their time for free" as if they're just being altruistic. Instead, they're there simply to be toxic to new users behind the anonymity of a username and keyboard. There's a big difference. People are always going to ask stupid questions. Just because you've used "fill in the blank" distro for X number of years doesn't give someone the right to jettison decency.
@anonymouscommentator