Growing up in the 80s King Kong references were always around. It’s one of those movies that’s so iconic and a part of pop culture like Godzilla, Dracula, or Frankenstein that you don’t even have to watch and you know the movie.
A side note to this discussion. King Kong, which is my favorite film, does have more to do with Bastards than discussed here. The 1933 classic was one of Adolph Hitler’s favorite movies. Some say it WAS his favorite. Wonder if Quentin knows that.
Never fully realized until now how beautiful n amazing the 1933 special fx and sets were. What an epic production.
Thanksgiving Day always had three guarantees. Turkey, King Kong, and the Detroit Lions.
Keep in mind that, before Star Wars, the sci-fi/fantasy/geek community did not have a wealth of movies and TV shows to occupy their minds. Monster movies were one of their mainstays, and King Kong was the granddaddy of them all. Most monster movies showed clear signs of being King Kong derivatives, with posters that often showed an ugly beast carrying around a scantily clad beauty in their arms. in 1977, King Kong was as old as Star Wars was in 2021. The Disney Star Wars films trying to reignite the magic of the original Star Wars happened at the exact same point in the timeline that the 1976 King Kong tried to do that for the original Kong. King Kong spent a good 40 years as the granddaddy of special effects fantasy films, in a time where there was much less serious competition for that position. Star Wars finally usurped its position one year after the 1976 Kong remake, forever turning King Kong into a beloved relic of the past, and no longer something that was central to the movie geek zeitgeist anymore.
The fillm not only has a racial layer, but sexual, environmental, capitalist, biblical and entertainment/exploitation layers as well. So I partially agree with Tarantino. It's an adventure film for kids, but it's also an unintentional adult satire/social commentary for the adults who were kids that saw it.
I thought it was more about “The Great White Hunters” getting their asses handed to them. The entire rescue party is decimated despite their weapons and recklessness. Characters only survive because of their plot armour; including Ann. The reason the ‘33 version cant really be topped is that Willis Obrien’s performance came out through his stop motion puppets. Mr. Tarantino’s take is interesting. To me the story is a take on how no matter how good you think you are, there’s always something out there that’s able to take you out.
I'm a black man 71 years old, we knew the racial aspects of King Kong when saw it on television when we were kids but we didn't talk about it much!
My God, this film is so spectacular. I need to watch it again soon.
55 yr old.For alot of men my age, the first movie that we ever saw in the theater was King Kong. Christmas '76
"As always it was beauty. BEAUTY killed the beast!"
My favorite film of all time.
This guy acting like the allegory of King Kong is some groundbreaking observation made by Tarantino.
The tv edit we all saw before the full restoration was much more sympathetic to king kong. It cut out the stomping and the chewing and the forced disrobing. And you can't acknowledge the slavery metaphor without extending it to that era's fear of interracial sex. This is the time of the cotton club. Tallulah Bankhead is getting down with Billy Holliday. That was a real subject at the time but you could only talk about it in a monkey movie.
Good for Quentin not to take credit for exposing the metaphor. Eli Roth has almost an extensive a background in film as QT, he just doesn’t have the massive goals QT has. They always have great conversations
Tarantino is a fucking genius I hope he comes back to filmmaking after he takes a break after his last film
Tarantino is my favorite film critic since Roger Ebert passed away. There's a few others too on the same level. Just people who get what makes all this fun and worth thinking about
I guess thats one way to see the movie, to me it was always a analogy of how modern civilizations marvel at the exotic unknown and make it into a spectacle without actually understanding it, then when it goes wrong everyone immediately turns on it. The tribesman all do this as well but with respect towards the beast and live alongside it in harmony but then the Americans show up and want to turn the beast into a production for profit, so to me Kong was just showing how capitalism will take and destroy everything between it and its dollar and Kong is ultimately the victim. But thats the beauty of stories, so many interpretations can be made and they may not be intended but it creates unique experiences for individuals
The "slave" and "race" analogy may be fine and is an interesting "add on"... but not a necessity one. But that's not what made or makes KING KONG so great. IMHO it comes from the groundbreaking effects and the simple story of the beauty meets beast. A monster (like the Frankenstein creation) that's really not a "monster". A creature torn from his element... sure, parallels to the slave story. But it's best as a great adventure story and would still have been highly entertaining even if he was not removed from Skull Island and was killed there.
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